ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for November 5, 2011
There was a great article on an expanding "super volcano" in Bolivia, South America. Obviously right where South America will be moving west or getting contracted since the tip remains in place. Can you comment on the article and what it could mean for the 7 of 10. [and from another] http://ca.news.yahoo.com/rapidly-inflating-volcano-creates-growing-mystery-142805969.html Uturuncu is a nearly 20,000-foot-high (6,000 meters) volcano in southwest Bolivia. Scientists recently discovered the volcano is inflating with astonishing speed. Uturuncu is surrounded by one of the most dense concentrations of supervolcanoes on the planet, all of which fell silent some 1 million years ago.
We have stressed that volcanoes that were formerly super volcanoes will not return to this status during the forthcoming pole shift. This applies to Yellowstone and all other super volcanoes around the globe. Where these volcanoes will not return to their super volcano status, they can be expected to erupt if they are still active volcanoes, i.e. have erupted within the last 10,000 years or are showing signs of activity. The Andes will be under tremendous pressure during the S American roll, which has only just started at this date. Positioned at the center of the pressure from the subduction of the Nazca Plate, it is not surprising that Uturuncu is giving signs of a potential eruption.
Since the elite is interested in Africa, I wonder now, if they really will finally succeed in relocating there; since it is a difference if they plan for it or if they finally really make it to there. This questions includes also for example which elite from which country will finally succeed it to make it there (for example Great Britain, France, Germany, China, Australia) and which places will be occupied by which elite (which means which places are to be avoided by the common man/STO). Since China was not interested in cooperating with the Queen/Western countries will this give conflict to Africa in the Aftertime? So, which areas are best to be avoided? Will it be at some places in Africa like in the Denver area?
How are the elite planning to carve up Africa, re-colonize it in essence,
and will there be clashes? We have mentioned that France is clearly eyeing Libya which has oil reserves and a large
aquifer. In the end, as the pole shift approaches, it will not be their plans
that will paint the picture but the Earth changes and migration from the
rest of the world. Imagine what will happen to survivors in Europe after
the 7 of 10 European tsunami. They will be on the move, en mass, pushed
from refugee camps by the lack of food and grim future prospects as well
as just frankly told to move on by overcrowded countries in Europe. They
will pour across the Mediterranean in anything that floats, overwhelming
the ability of countries on either side to maintain order on the coasts.
Then there is the migration from SE Asia as the Sunda Plate sinks, and the eventual migration from India. Africa today has a large Indian population in those countries bordering the Indian Ocean, and the coastlines are scarcely secured by these poor nations. Illegal immigration has a long history in the world, the techniques well known. Those standing in water, with no hope of a different future, will migrate to dryer land and a better future. Cargo ships will be diverted from their usual cargo to a more profitable cargo - desperate refugees.
We have long mentioned that the country of S Africa will be a target of the elite, for several reasons. It is an ideal jumping off point for those wanting land rights on the new land to emerge near Antarctica and on Antarctica itself. It was long under colonial rule, Apartheid long in its history only recently broken in 1994. Traditions and expectations are not easily erased, so the country would be considered friendly to an invasion by white men with assets. S Africa's infrastructure, on a continent that has only spotty development into an industrial state, is self-sufficient. Thus self-sufficient, it has already taken the first step toward what the elite view as a necessary part of bunker security - technological self-sufficiency. S Africa will be invaded not by drowning immigrants but by the elite with entourage and security guards. All will be demanding service and barking orders at each other, with pecking order battles inevitable.
I notice in my Southern California mountains at night, a star seen through the trees would drop 3 feet in the sky over an 1.5-2.0 hour period. This has been happening the last 8 weeks. Now, this week [Oct 29], I noticed it is only taking about 45 minutes. I assume this is the figure 8 wobble and it is speeding up? Please comment.
As documented by Nancy in her most recent newsletter edition there was a violent Earth wobble on October 24-25, 2011. This brought red auroras to the skies across N America and a wobble slosh to Tabasco on the Yucatan Penninsula and in Dublin, Ireland. When we first introduced the concept of the wobble in 2004, we predicted it would steadily get worse, increasing in violence. We described the process. At first the S Pole of Earth was grabbed and held by the N Pole of Planet X. And then as Planet X turned in space during its 270° roll, the N Pole of Earth was pushed violently away by the N Pole of Planet X which had turned increasingly to point directly at the Earth. Now a gravity dance, a push-pull, has also started, and this affects the wobble too. All this will get increasingly worse.
On 5th October, 13 Chinese sailors are killed in a gruesome murder with reasons unknown in the Mekong river bordering Burma and Thailand (Golden Triangle). Recently, it was announced that 9 Thai soldiers are suspects with the Mekong murders. Now why would Thai soldiers do this. China's relation with Myanmar is also strained after Myanmar's sudden rejection of the Chinese-backed Myitsone Dam project. All of a sudden China seems to have problems with most of its South East Asian neighbors that share its borders, including Thailand and Myanmar, which are non-claimant states of the South China Seas. These two episodes do seem too coincidental. Will the zetas like to comment. [and from another] Chinese sailors slain in 'gruesome' Mekong River murders [Oct 10] http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/10/world/asia/mekong-chinese-murders/index.html At least 12 Chinese sailors have been killed after their cargo ships were attacked on the Mekong River in the northern Thai province of Chiang Rai. found almost one million amphetamines on the vessels. [and from another] http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-10/31/c_131222515.htm Criminal activity on the river has increased in recent years, with extortion, robbery and shootings becoming more frequent. [and from another] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/1/china-demands-justice-murdered-sailors/ The mysterious slayings of 13 Chinese seamen aboard two cargo ships laden with illegal drugs - and the arrest of nine Thai soldiers accused of killing them - has Southeast Asia scrambling to appease an angry Chinese government [and from another] http://www.firstpost.com/world/the-limits-of-power-why-china-is-a-bad-neighbour-120299.html From the territorial disputes with Vietnam and the Philippines in the South China Sea to tensions with Burma (Myanmar) and Thailand, relationships that were sound, if not always friendly, have now soured. Myanmar's decision to shelve the Chinese-backed Myitsone Dam project shocked China. Likewise, the killing of 13 Chinese boat crewmen on the Mekong River in October serves as a stark reminder that China's presumably peaceful southern land border, which has been untroubled for nearly 20 years, today resembles the most hostile sort of neighborhood.
Where on the face of it, looking like Thai soldiers cleaning up a drug running gang, this incident exposes increasing border tensions. China does not want her neighbors to the south to migrate north as the flooding of the 7 of 10 culminates. Without being specific as to cause, border guards have been instructed to prevent mass migration, even if mass murder is required. At the very least, such instructions have Chinese soldiers trigger happy, and body language relays this to the border patrols in neighboring countries. The global depression has put economic stress on all stratas of Asian societies, so that criminal activity has nudged upward. If this incident reveals the tension, just wait until Thailand and Viet Name and Cambodia have completed their 7 of 10 sinking. As we have stated, the 8 of 10 scenarios will involve sociological changes, which are inevitable in a world with a changing geography. This certainly includes boder clashes.
I am hoping the Zetas can clarify something that's confusing me. I live in the Boulder, CO area and know that this is a very unsafe location for various reasons. I had considered relocating to the western slop of the Rockies, when I read the ZT http://www.zetatalk2.com/info/tinfx037.htm "Thus, safety in Colorado might entail being to the west of the Continental Divide, rather than to the east." But then I read this ZT http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p25.htm "Here again the land west of the Continental Divide is the worst hit." Then there is this ZT. This is in the following link under "Oklahoma" http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf "We would advise those wanting to survive with certainly, to move into the mountains or foothills of the Rockies, as there one can climb higher if they see that they have misjudged, and not be caught." I'm trying to keep a steady mind on where to go, but having difficulty doing so. Thanks for any clarity the Zetas may suggest for my confusion on this subject.
The Rockies, as the name implies, are high mountains and rugged, showing
that mountain building occurs there. The Continental Divide parallels the
Rockies. The Continental Divide exists in continents such as North and
South America because of extreme subduction along their west coasts, with
plates in the Pacific forced violently under the continental plates. Each
such violent episode lifts the land plates higher, and creates additional
rock strata beneath such land plates, thickening them and increasing their
elevation. All this is elemental geography. We have explained that in
those areas where subduction has repeatedly occurred, the land plates
develop thickness so that active mountain building is less likely to
occur, making these regions more stable than the Continental Divide.
At the Continental Divide, the process is varied, depending upon whether the pressure eastward involves rock strata that can slide over one another easily, and which rock strata is on top. This can involve the top rock strata sliding over a flat plains region to the east, as is occurring in Colorado and is occurring primarily in Nebraska and the Dakotas.In such cases, the top rock strata slides over the plains, rumpling and scraping what lies before it. If the rock strata to the east is not flat, then mountain building for those areas both to the east and west of the Continental Divide result, with much rumpling and tumbling. This is occurring in Montana and Wyoming.
We have stated that there is no such thing as a safe location, as all safety is relative. Hardened rock such as develops on the floor of former salt lakes, which can be found in Utah in the Salt Lake region or in some places throughout the west in Nevada and Idaho and California, offer greater refuge from mountain building than rock recently broken. If one is in the Mississippi Valley and subject to the immense flooding that will envelop states whole, such as those in Oklahoma will endure, one is relatively safer in the foothills of the Rockies to the east of the Continental Divide. There they will rumple and toss, but will not drown.
My question is pertaining to Lahore and the surrounding region in Pakistan. Since this is east of the Indus River and south of the Himalayas, is it subject to being permanently flooded along with the rest of India? Do you anticipate major international communication losses to this sector during the major 7 of 10 adjustments? Due to the ongoing coverup, it is quite difficult to communicate the true future of the earth to others. As such, at the first sign of major trouble, in what direction would it be wisest for inhabitants to go? Perhaps to the north into the mountains? Any advice in these regards is greatly appreciated.
As the continent of India is pushed steadily down and under the Himalayas, lands in Pakistan that lie on the Indo-Australian Plate will participate. The plate border as it transverses Pakistan reflects this, with the Indus Valley on the Indo-Australian Plate being lowland, and the highlands to the west on the Eurasian Plate. Lahore and eastern Pakistan can thus expect to steadily sink up until the time of the Pole Shift, when it will share the dive that India itself will experience.
A University of Hawaii oceanographer and computer programmer recently used multiple data sources to estimate 5 million to 20 million tons of debris was dragged out to sea by the 3-11 tsunami that hit Japan 8 months ago. Sendai City, Japan is not even in the world's top 400 of the world's 1,000 most populated cities. "Presently about 40% of the world's population lives within 100 kilometers of the coast." [Source: sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/es/papers/Coastal_Zone_Pop_Method.pdf] So, it would seem that at least 40 percent of planet earth's artificial structures and "stuff" as well as natural potential debris (a.k.a. all combined to generate future debris washed out to sea) is within the 100-mile-from-coast tsunami zone predicted by the Zetas. If one does the math here, it would seem as though the Pole Shift is going to cause an absolute minimum of about a thousand million tons of debris, much of it long term floating debris, to be washed out to sea. [CALC: >= (400 x 5 million tons) x 40% = 800 million tons]. Mathematically, the figure likely could be double or triple that. With the technology of earth's civilization devastated, and the "element-of-doubt" rule still in place for about 100 years after the Pole Shift, how in the heck is the floating remainder of 4 to 5 trillion pounds (~ 2 trillion kilos) of debris washed out to sea ex-post-Pole-Shift going to get cleaned up from earth's oceans? [and from another] Ref: http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/home-garden/earth-you/57238/its-out-there-tsunami-debris.asp Oct. 26--Debris unleashed from March's Japanese earthquake and tsunami will land on beaches in the main Hawaiian Islands as early as spring 2013, but how much will arrive and how it will be disposed of remain a mystery. An estimated 5 million to 20 million tons of debris was dragged out to sea by the March 11 tsunami, said Jan Hafner, a scientific computer programmer at the University of Hawaii's School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology who is helping UH oceanographer Nikolai Maximenko track the path of the debris. … But the loose assortment of debris stretches 2,000 miles long and 1,000 miles wide, he said.
Where rot, decomposition, and corrosion of material proceeds on land, it happens faster when the material
is damp or under water. Organic material, such as wood or
furnishings made of cotton or wool or organic fibers, is consumed by
bacteria, whether this floats or sinks. All of man's chemical treatments
degrade over time, so that even radioactive material becomes inert within
time. The History Channel featured a documentary called Life
After People showing the projection of man's cities within
100 years, and this on land. Of course materials that equate to rock, such
as steel and plaster or concrete, remain in part, though would become a
type of rock strata in time, identified by future geologists as strata
that points to mankind's former cities.
Metal corrodes, compositions such as concrete or plaster crumble, and this occurs today with any structure or item man assembles. An extreme dry climate can delay such decomposition, as the mummies of Egypt attest, but water accelerates this process. Bacteria requires at least water to survive, and when the material is damp or in water, this process is greatly accelerated. Even oil spills are eventually cleaned up by oil eating bacteria, as the Gulf spill showed. Plastics are essentially organic material. Sunlight also assists in breaking break down organic material. Metal corrodes when exposed to elements in the air, and this likewise is accelerated when under water. In short, every item man assembles from nature wants to return to its natural state, the state it had before man refined or extracted or assembled the material into its new state.
The trash scoured out to sea during the pole shift, or during the sloshing that will occur during the extreme wobble in the Last Weeks, will create clutter on the sea floor near shore, though most will be dragged out a distance from shore and be in the depths. Fish will assist in cleaning up organic materials such as dead bodies, which will quickly become bones. In fact, for survivors along the coastline needing to attend to massive burial of the dead, burial at sea is an excellent alternative. What does not sink, to become at most an under water hazard for ships, will float. Floating debris is primarily organic material, which breaks down under exposure to sunlight. In time, such floating islands of debris will disappear.