Phil Plait vs Nancy Lieder on Planet X
C2C Debate May 13, 2003

Phil Plait states:

First off, surprise! The weather isn't all that weird.

But the facts are:

Washington Post, July 2, 1998
In 1984, the number of storms with hail at least three-quarters of an inch in size was 2,749 at the National Weather Service. In 1996, there were 9,636 reports.
From 1991 to 1996, the number of severe thunderstorms reported grew from 6,504 to 9,175.

Phil Plait states:

If Planet X is nearly here, then you'd expect to see an increase of major earthquake activity over time, with 2002 having the most. Surprise! It doesn't. In fact, 2002 is usually average or even below average in the number of major earthquakes for a given magnitude that occurred. You may notice that the actual total number of earthquakes does appear to increase with time, but that is not because there are more earthquakes. It's because we're getting better at detecting them! As instruments become more sensitive, more earthquakes are detected

But the facts are:

Where the USGS states that a Richter 5 occurs on average once every 3 days, the frequency has been above that. When domino quakes first started appearing during the Turkey quake on Aug 17, 1999, a comparison to the period to the prior year, 1998, was done. It was about this time that the USGS was noted as under-reporting Richter size, and by late 2002 dropping hundreds of quakes from the databases. Unless a quake occurs in a populated area, where noticed, it is likely to be dropped, and as of May 10, 2003 live seismo data (http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.htm ) has become or unavailable. Even given the under-reporting, when global quakes began in 2003, there was in increase over the frequency in 1999.

Date RangeDay CountQuake CountRichter Range
Aug 4-14, 199810255.0 to 7.2
Aug 17-22, 19995255.0 to 7.6
Mar 17-20, 20034265.0 to 7.0

The degree to which the databases are gutted, compared to real live seismo data, can be seen by comparing Apr 29, 2003. In preparation for the weekly IRC, live seismo data was collected as it happens. The quake Databases, recently forced to collect their data from a single source, show many of those quakes simply missing!

(NancyL) SIGN of the TIMES #3: QUAKE 5+ Only Every 3 Days? NOT
(NancyL) Per the USGS home page, 5+ Richter happens only on average every 3 days. 
         NOT! On Apr 29, per live Siezmos, above 5 Richter: 
            5.8 GREECE,
            6.2 JAPAN, 
            6.3 KURIL ISLANDS RUSSIA, 
            6.2 NORTH PACIFIC OCEAN, 
            5.6 SOUTH CHINA SEA, 
            5.7, INDONESIA, 
            6.5 MARSHALL ISLANDS, 
            5.5 SOUTH INDIAN OCEAN, 
            5.3 ADRIATIC SEA

2003/04/29 01:51:19.42 36.9810 21.8690 35.80 5.00 Mb 64 1.31 NEI 200304291002
2003/04/29 10:44:39.62 -7.0220 103.7150 33.00 5.80 Mw 31 0.77 NEI 200304291016
2003/04/29 11:32:36.36 -6.9910 103.7520 33.00 5.00 Mb 15 0.96 NEI 200304291017
2003/04/29 13:53:16.77 43.6680 147.7570 60.50 6.00 Mw 269 0.64 NEI 200304291019

Phil Plait states:

When charged particles hit an electronic detector, they leave a bright spot in the image. These kinds of particles are produced by the Sun, and can hit the detector in the camera. ... They are not a gigantic planet about to kill us all, but instead are dinky little protons who have had the unfortunate fate of slamming into the electronic chip on the back end of a telescope.

But the facts are:

On Jan 5, 2002, John Oliver (I'm Open Minded), NASA affilated, took an infrared image and initiated the sci.astro thread OK Nancy, Where Is It? When the area circled by Nancy proved to have a new object, just above an existing star, John explained this pendant like double star, with a clear separation between the existing star and the new object, with the statement "the star moved". So much for John's ability to address the issues as an expert.

On Jan 19, 2002 additional infrared images were taken in France, showing the new object moving from the Jan 5, 2002 position to the Jan 19, 2002 position. This appeared on the Median, proper processing to eliminate noise. Pierre-Eric, a student of astro-physics, took the images at an observatory, the originals made available to the public, and stamped with the observatory identity, date, and time, unlike the images John took on Jan 5, 2002.

On Jan 19, 2002 the new object on the Jan 5, 2002 image was gone. Likewise, on Jan 5, 2002 the object that appeared on Jan 19, 2002 was missing. It moved, in accordance with the Zeta coordiantes given months earlier.

On Oct 11, 2002 a Median was again produced, showing the object having moved from the Oct 3, 2002 point to the Oct 11, 2002 spot, again in accordance with the Zeta predictions. It is faint on the Median, but consistently comes through on all the frames to the Sum, which noise does not.

On Dec 28, 2002 a tail swirl overlap produced a huge dense splotch on the images, demonstrating once again that the inbound and increasingly visible corpus, moon swirls, dust cloud, and even individual moons of Planet X are not noise. As always, these new objects did not appear on comparison DSS (Digital Sky Survey) or Palmomar star charts.

On Jan 10, 2003 debunker Michael Cunningham processed the images and displayed them on his web site to disprove the presence of Planet X. The fact that it nicely showed Planet X at the Zeta coordinates, as the Jan 5, 2002 infrared images done by John Oliver had done. Not to be bothered by facts, Michael Cunningham is on record for having cried "fraud" re the Jan 19, 2002 infrared images before they were available for inspection.

On Jan 23, 2003 debunker Sara McIntyre made the statement on her web site that all objects within the circle made by the Sighting Team were "noise". The objects included an existing star, a debunking Faux Pas. So much for Sara's discerning objectivity.

Jan 5, 2002 New per GeometryJan 19, 2002 in MedianJan 19, 2002 MovingOct 11, 2002 Median and Sum


Oct 11, 2002 Moving / Oct 3Dec 28, 2002 Splotch Noise?Jan 10, 2003 Cunningham Jan 23, 2003 Sara on Noise